To do some utilitarianism for a bit: there's this really common idea that you can't ever abolish suffering without losing something, but I think this is misguided. I feel there's a cluster of positive-valence states that are roughly equal in value that can be cycled through, some of which entail zen-flow productivity, & any superwellbeing maximizer will optimally explore this space without ever getting caught in the dreaded 'pleasure trap,' and without ever having to fall into negative states
Anyways, go forth and abolish suffering it'll be fuckin lit
@JCorvinus
aye
that's fucking the spirit
you gotta be qualia-trajectorymaxxing. you gotta be valencepilled. rainbowgod the whole space at H≥0
@JCorvinus oh yea, there may be a limit to every form of pleasure but since it's a continuous spectrum there's always another form! heaven is only boring if it's not novel and creative, and challenge without suffering is 1000% possible :D
@JCorvinus ask me how i know (autistic special interests), hell i've been working on Stardust for YEARS and i've figured out that it just takes a bit to reset my brain, then again my brain actually does the opposite of habituation in many ways.
2 reasons for this:
I know that the brain abhors a steady state, and 'keeping your finger on the button' will eventually result in downregulation
&
given the richness of everything I've experienced, in both sober and altered states, the idea of a 'single' pleasure state is just... completely wrong. There's 'firing on all cylinders' euphoria as well as 'melty warm blissful' euphoria at a very minimum