But that could just be a typical product of ignorance or stupidity.

More amazing is that those who say things like this have absolutely no clue that they have gone beyond the greatest paternalistic condescension ever mustered at the height of colonialism, by shooting right past "they're such children, really" and declaring that the people in question are basically fucking automata who are going to do what they're going to do, tick-tock.

Only Western shitposters have free will, don'ch'know?