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for all its faults, neoreaction has the advantage of being clearly and obviously wrong

@niplav How so? I definitely wouldn't call myself a neoreactionary, but there's something about their outright rejection of many post-enlightenment values that I find viscerally, oddly, compelling.

@skadi

That was definitely more of a shitpost, I had the format in my head, and needed some victim ideology to put in the blanks

@skadi

My real opinion on nrx is like my opinion on all political ideologies, which is ~"this is mostly just vibe, and not really my vibe, insofar as it contains testable proposals with well-defined outcomes that people want, we should build a test city/province where those ideas for governance are applied, and check what actually happens"

@niplav @skadi that's the whole idea of patchwork though, is for it to essentially be a laboratory to test different kinds of governance

@nyx @skadi

I haven't actually read patchwork yet, I'm afraid (I have UR downloaded though, so it should happen sometime in the next 20 years…). That general style of setup looks really cool & promising (same with DAOs, seasteading, charter cities…)

Most of those kinds of proposals err too far on the side of ignoring global externalities and black balls we pull from the urn. I'd like them acknowledge that we need a slow outer loop[1] as well.

[1]: gwern.net/Backstop

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