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people that think this way tend to be somewhat romantic, drawn to a certain watercolored view of life and humanity, wanting to inject magic into the mundane and reject the mechanization of the world

I understand the impulse, ofc. it's pretty natural. but it ignores reality
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I have no real way of communicating the horror I feel at the idea of artificial wombs.
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being attached to a romantic notion of things is diametrically opposed to honest inquiry and intellectual rigor; you cannot start from emotions you interpret as reality, and arrive on an accurate and useful model of the world

of course, one possible answer is that you don't care

but if that's the case, we really have nothing to discuss. it's childish, imo; to so desperately want to world to be beautiful that you're unwilling to deal with uncomfortable truths, to dig in the epistemic muck and unearth the nuggets of truth concealed within

feminine trait

often, these people stay safely quarantined in big cities, studying the humanities, employed in simple, no consequence occupations

but when they attain some measure of power, they become dangerous, and threaten our ability to engage in rational evidence-based policy

so many useful and necessary things in life are unsavory; pacemakers, organ transplants, colostomy bags

sewers, large scale farms, fossil fuels

police, courts, jails, lawyers

you cannot avoid dealing with the ugliness of the world

(unless you're highly. privileged ofc)

artificial wombs are one such technology

I'll admit, they're deeply unsettling to think about, & make me slightly nervous about long term effects

but would I rather force women to use their bodies to incubate, and give up opportunities they desire? no!

they're the lesser evil

so many choices in life involve tradeoffs

would I rather my grandfather have died years ago, rather than undergo a deeply unsettling triple bypass?

how about factory farms; would I trade them for millions of people ceasing to exist?

condoms? birth control?

its not that simple

some people would make the opposite choices, they would want us all to retvrn to the days the majority of newborns died before they hit a year, that life expectancy was under 50, that our daily lives were filled with toil

they claim theyd gladly trade that all for natural beauty

they are either lying (to you or themselves) or deeply evil

life is messy, it is ugly and disgusting and banal

biology is a festering pile of flesh desperately trying to survive

but out of that arose MIND, and mind is the most beautiful thing

it's just yet another tradeoff.

@pee_zombie being attached to an X notion of things, as opposed to honest inquiry and intellectual rigor is a difficult thing in all cases.

My current beef/conundrum is with pragmatists. They dont like to dillydally with philisophical questions if their belief is good enough to get the job done and not cause too much dissonance. It really frustrates the crap put of me.
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