I think about estimates of how long it would take a determined civilization to expand itself throughout the universe, and I ask myself --

Does cancer have fun?

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If the difference between a determined civilization and a relaxed civilization is just one or two orders of magnitude in growth rate, does it matter? Every exponential curve looks the same from far enough away.

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It's more that only cancer, in the category of things that grow, has an exponential curve rather than an S-curve, because it's the thing for which growth is a terminal goal. For everything else, it's instrumental.

(Even the Daleks, as pretty much the gold standard for highly-focused monomanic civilizations, don't want to wallpaper the universe. They just want to be alone in it, and growth is a tool.)

((Even if they could destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek.))

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