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You are concerned about the top surgery scars option in the Dragon Age: Veilguard character creator because of transphobia.

I am concerned about it because it raises _so many_ questions about available medical care technologies in Thedas.

We are not the same.

@cerebrate magical antiseptic/local anesthesia maybe? (I know nothing about this setting)

@cinebox

Well...

I'll spare you the very lengthy 11-part argument I've been having with myself on this, and sum it up simply as - well, based on what we know so far, I can envision a Thedas in which it's not possible, and I can envision one in which it *is* possible to a very high standard thanks to the local magic, but I'm having a lot of trouble coming up with one in which it's both possible and still leaves serious scarring behind.

...yes, I'm a terrible worldbuilding consistency geek,

@cerebrate Worth noting that mastectomies (for treating breast cancer) date back to at least the 17th century. Survival rates were terrible, but they did happen

@cinebox It's a good point.

On the other hand, there's also the change in the payoff matrix for both patient and doctor when the alternative to "this surgery has a good chance of killing you" isn't "but the cancer will definitely kill you".

@cerebrate @cinebox Cassandra and I'd think many folks show scars, so mayhap curing magic forms scars at points?

@ilzo @cinebox

Yeah, plenty of battle scars around the place. On the other hand, it's also possible that this is the case because of a combination of the Chantry and popular prejudices against magic combined with it being a rare, hence expensive, magical specialty, leading to a lot of non-magical healing techniques in use, and non-magical medical knowledge seems not the greatest, elfroot aside.

(Thedas lore summary I found here, for reference: tumblr.com/dalishious/70517505 ).

@ilzo @cinebox

I feel like I should note that I'm not arguing that it's impossible, I just want to know the parameters of the possible.

Because I have all these IDEAS involving the Orlesian plastic surgery industry and smug Tevinter magisters preening about these southern barbarians and their meatball surgery when in Minrathous they just use blood magic like civilized people.

"You start with four healthy slaves, and a little bit of totally-not-human-sacrifice later, behold, lyrium tits!"

@cerebrate How often do you see characters with other kinds of scars in that game?
Keeping in mind that healing potions aren’t necessarily “cutscene canon.”

@zarpaulus

Quite a few, What we see are largely flesh wound scars (with serious, pre-antibiotic-etc. degrees of scarring) rather than surgical scarring, as you might expect just from what's likely to be visible.

(I note that while we must allow for a degree of gameplay and story separation, elfroot-based healing potions are lore canon, not just mechanics canon.)

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