You can hardly find a studio the works of which are so thoughtful, kind, and intentional as Studio Ghibli. To stripmine that for its aesthetics, to take a piece of cardboard and paint it like food and say "See, doesn't this taste just as good?" is more than missing the point, it's barbaric, dystopian. It's an insult to life itself. #OpenAI
The negative reaction to lots of non-artists getting the chance to make something they find aesthetically nice and imitating a style they admire is insane.
No person who types a few words into ChatGPT is going to start thinking of themself as better than Miyazaki.
I can understand criticizing the way OpenAI is profiting from this, but please don't call regular people trying out a new tool barbaric and dystopian.
@satchlj @Gargron I've written about this in other places, but the accessibility argument here also really fundamentally misunderstands what art is.
Who told you that you weren't an artist and that this AI slop is better than even the most basic scribbles you put down on a page?
"Non-artist": what does that even mean? Do you express things? Do you have emotions? Want to communicate them? You're an artist.
Sure, everyone is an artist. What I mean when I say non-artist is people who don't usually spend lots of time making art, who haven't put effort into developing a skill that helps them express themselves artistically
And I'm not saying low effort AI generated pictures are inherently better than basic scribbles in every sense, I'm saying that they open different creative outlets
@satchlj @Gargron expression is not whether or not you can immitate a line style.
Expression is a series of choices that communicate something. These models *don't* let "non-artists" express themselves, that's my point. They rob them of their expression.
You're not expressing anything at all by putting a Ghibli filter on a photo. Doing anything else, redrawing the photo in MS Paint with a mouse - that would be more communicative.
Putting a Ghibli filer on a photo isn't that expressive, I agree. There are other reasons someone might want to do it, like fun. Or, it emphasizes certain aspects of the photo that weren't emphasized before, to be charitable.
Not so for the more general case, especially when someone is carefully and repeatedly prompting a model.
Also, there's lots of human expression that isn't a series of choices. Artists have put urinals in museum galleries and improv performance art.
I'm saying it's not a series of choices. It's one idea and one choice. Kind of like the one idea and choice that might lead to a single prompt? So maybe one prompt can be art?
Perhaps - but the prompt wasn't conceived as a text to be published, it was conceived as an image prompt.
That's all from me on this topic for now. Thanks for engaging.
@satchlj @Gargron referencing Duchamp as an example of a *lack* of artistic choices or deliberate expression is a pretty wild take on art.
This is very silly.