You can hardly find a studio the works of which are so thoughtful, kind, and intentional as Studio Ghibli. To stripmine that for its aesthetics, to take a piece of cardboard and paint it like food and say "See, doesn't this taste just as good?" is more than missing the point, it's barbaric, dystopian. It's an insult to life itself. #OpenAI
The negative reaction to lots of non-artists getting the chance to make something they find aesthetically nice and imitating a style they admire is insane.
No person who types a few words into ChatGPT is going to start thinking of themself as better than Miyazaki.
I can understand criticizing the way OpenAI is profiting from this, but please don't call regular people trying out a new tool barbaric and dystopian.
@satchlj “Getting the chance to make something”—don’t be ridiculous, there is no bar to making art except effort. Pick up a pencil, look up tutorials online and start drawing. And the idea that telling ChatGPT to produce some slop for you is “making” it is delusional. Are you a cook because you pick ingredients for your sandwich at a fast food place?
@Gargron
That's actually a great analogy.
You're not a cook because you picked ingredients for a sandwich someone else makes, just like you're not an artist because you chose the subject matter of low effort AI-generated pictures.
But you can still have fun picking out good ingredients and enjoy the result!
@satchlj @Gargron for that analogy to work, we'd have to be talking about people commissioning artists to mimic Miyazaki's style.
Instead we're talking about a machine built on stolen art and consuming literal tons of water and so much electricity that their companies are buying and reopening old power plants.
Maybe I'm wrong here but what I've been told is that energy consumption from modern AI is next to nothing compared to things like streaming videos or making video calls.
Unless you don't think that's true (in which case please tell me why), or you never stream videos or make video calls, you're the pot calling the kettle black.
@satchlj @Gargron the power consumption graph is about the household usage.
The power consumed by the users device when using LLM Chatbots is very low, because the power consumption is happening at the data center.
The water consumption graph must have some similar weird caveat, lying with statistics is as old as the invention of statistics.
It's also worth noting that generating images is a heavier workload than chatbots, so you're comparing apples to oranges.
@satchlj @Gargron
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tech-companies-signing-nuclear-deals-211710797.html
They consume so much power that they need to buy power plants only for themselves.
https://www.newsweek.com/why-ai-so-thirsty-data-centers-use-massive-amounts-water-1882374
Their data centers need so much water for cooling that they're drying out whole towns.
Video calls and streaming never got to those requirements, in fact the bulk of processing for those tend to run on the users devices.