@xenophora is he even involved anymore? He's basically just a funder at this point, IIUC.

@WomanCorn

Funds don't equal involvement?

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@xenophora I mean he's not making decisions or running the company or writing code or anything.

There's no opportunity for him to pivot to evil.

@WomanCorn

Whatever helps you get through, I guess.

I can't imagine patronizing a service where I *know* a damn Nazi sympathizer is doing the funding. Not a social media platform, not a cafe, not a car parts emporium. Nor can I believe that a funder has no say and no hand in policy. Certainly the rest of the org has taken a stand by accepting his money, and it's not a good stand.

He ran Twitter and it was garbage: crawling all the time with Nazis.

Hard pass on bluesky for me.

@lispegistus I saw some pretty ridiculous claims.

@WomanCorn Something I'm realizing in recent years is that a claims ridiculousness is a very bad proxy for it's validity before more information is available :) But more importantly, bad faith being assumed, regardless of what claims that assumption generates, is not unreasonable given the people involved.

@lispegistus people are spinning doom scenarios that don't seem very plausible to me, primarily on the strength of <I don't like that guy.>

Seems like bad reasoning.

@WomanCorn I've been offline for a couple of weeks, so I haven't seen the exaggerated claims or really much of the discourse, but I do know that the VC incentive structure will severely disadvantage users in favor of information management organizations(advertisers, special interest groups, state sponsored disinfo campaigns, etc.) as basically inevitable. If people stay away because Jack is literally Hitler in their heads, even if that's not true, it's still probably better for them :)

@lispegistus @WomanCorn Well, it's simultaneously true that some misinfo has circulated pretty widely on Mastodon and that there are valid grounds for concern with Bluesky's long-term viability, both for organizational and technical reasons, I think.

@andrea @WomanCorn Seems to me all the disinfo/spam/ddos campaigns are centered around either "sketchy instance that just popped up and gets defederated instantly" or "literally mastodon dot social". So far it seems this place is rather resilient even with the biggest instance asleep at the wheel.

@lispegistus @WomanCorn Oh, I meant misinfo about BlueSky specifically. It might be in better shape than a lot are imagining organizationally due to the public benefit LLC structure, but the reliance on what they're calling a "Big Graph Service" as a potential chokepoint could be a real hazard depending on resource demands.