@augustus
ah, I see

I assume it's necessary to espouse that belief as well? I don't think the catholic church has mind-reading powers yet

@jeffcliff @niplav You can tell the local priest that you want to leave the church. He will tell you the address to contact. Your wish to leave will be registered. But: the baptism will not be undone. If you are really an atheist, you can of course be thoroughly indifferent to what the church says about it.

@boromir @jeffcliff
okay, that seems reasonable

i was thinking more about what unhinged stuff i would have to do for the catholic church excommunicate me in its own impetus, without me asking them

i don't think i've heard about an excommunication in the 21st century, even for people who misused church assets, maybe even for the pedophiles?

@niplav @boromir you're looking at the wrong harms -

The catholic church isn't going to excommunicate pedophiles, that's too close to home. They might excommunicate a civil rights organizer or an abortionist or something though

@jeffcliff @niplav @boromir
>The catholic church isn't going to excommunicate pedophiles, that's too close to home.
That's just retarded.

@niplav @boromir @Eris

> A person who procures an abortion (can. 1398)

on the list

not on the list?
pictured below

@jeffcliff @niplav @boromir You are retarded.

@Eris @jeffcliff @boromir i stand corrected

@niplav @jeffcliff @boromir

Retards really think a minor scandal in the 90s means that the church officially endorses pedophilia as their legitimate public position and never stop to think how retarded they are.

@Eris @niplav @boromir and the 80's. and the 70's. and the 60's...and the 1860's...and the 1850's...

@jeffcliff @niplav @boromir
That's still just as retarded.

@jeffcliff @Eris @niplav @boromir I just want you to die and to leave your shitrats with no one.

@D00B @Eris @boromir @niplav Some day you'll get what you want, don't worry.

@jeffcliff @Eris @niplav @boromir I know we are at < 18 months for you.

@D00B @Eris @boromir @niplav I'm guessing closer to 40 months but ymmv

@jeffcliff @Eris @niplav @boromir oh ho ho ho no.

@D00B @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir the fat jabbed poop eater is going to die soon and there's nothing he can do about it.

@dew_the_dew @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir it's going to be awesome.

@D00B @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir seriously this guy has problems

@dew_the_dew @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir you don't even know did you see him simping for bot?

@D00B @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir yes i threw you the dead pigeon reaction gif from arrested development in response

@D00B @dew_the_dew @Eris @boromir @jeffcliff @niplav Only one person is allowed to simp for bot and that’s me

@dew_the_dew @D00B @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir Are you referring to Ethan Ralph?

@bucadibeppo @D00B @Eris @niplav @jeffcliff @boromir he can go too i want him to die shitting himself during a killstream bc pottery

@bucadibeppo @dew_the_dew @Eris @boromir @jeffcliff @niplav might as well be

@jeffcliff @niplav @boromir

If it was their official, legitimate, public position that these things were fine, they wouldn't be scandals at all in the first place.

@Eris @boromir @niplav unless they had an 'outside' to contend with - it's *secular* people that have a problem with children being raped. The church was fine with it for millennia.

@jeffcliff @niplav @boromir
>The church was fine with it for millennia.
Literally no.

@niplav @jeffcliff I think there is a misunderstanding: even those who are excommunicated remain members of the Church!

@boromir @jeffcliff
i knew that, but it's still the "principal and severest censure" for anyone in the church (barring execution?), so I'd assume this would be what happens to catholics who commit great spiritual wrongdoings

@niplav @jeffcliff Sorry, I didn't mean to be lecturing. You can find the list of offenses here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication#Catholic_Church

@boromir @jeffcliff
no problem! thanks 🙂

@boromir @niplav I thought the whole point of an excommunication is that it removes you from the flock entirely

ie i don't just want to leave the church i want the doors closed, with no return possible

It's not enough to be indifferent to the catholic church imo. I want them to know who I am.

@jeffcliff
Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication_(Catholic_Church)#Excommunicable_offenses

@jeffcliff
i was stupid to ask, should have checked wikipedia before asking on fedi like some idiot expecting a useful response

@niplav on the contrary:

Wikipedia doesn't let people like me edit, so it is biased. Human beings may not know your answer, but it's fruitful to engage in inquiry with them *especially* people who are banned on wikipedia if your go-to is normally wikipedia.

@dhfir the short moment when I get this in my notifications and wonder which post it's responding to

Not a bad suggestion