niplav @niplav@schelling.pt

(I could imagine >>$10k for an hour of skilled TAI-system tickling)
4.2 You become good at alignment: Under the frame "alignment is whatever scaling doesn't solve". This might require good epistemics/high agency/ability to qiuckly reorient as the world around you changes rapidly.

For 4. you might still lose your job when the economy is doubling every month or smth but at least you might be able to rake in enormous amounts of cash beforehand and fall to 1-3.

3. You have some capital and hope it doesn't get disappropriated by economic forces until economic growth is fast enough to make your capital grow quickly enough that you don't die of hunger or whatever. Few $10ks might be enough for this I reckon? Especially if you can live sparingly, and prices might fall while things are becoming more & more automated
4.1 You focus on becoming good at tickling AI systems the right way to produce what economic agents want—this might become extremely valuable

Quick takes on unemployment through AI systems:

Practically, there's like 4. paths forward.

1. You hope that comparative advantage holds for AI systems/humans in a way that it doesn't hold for humans/ants. AI systems will be good at figuring out that comparative advantage. You take that one.
2. You hope that governments/quadrillion-dollar-corps will institute UBI/negative income tax/make-you-not-die money and the time between "you get automated away" and "this gets instituted" is short

ok but hear me out

one hundred billion dollars into mechanistic interpretability

Once 50% of all knowledge-work has been automated, how long in expectation until 90%+ of all work has been automated?

from http://www.brautigan.net/machines.html

I like to think
(it has to be!)
of a cybernetic ecology
where we are free of our labors
and joined back to nature,
returned to our mammal
brothers and sisters,
and all watched over
by machines of loving grace.

I like to think (and
the sooner the better!)
of a cybernetic meadow
where mammals and computers
live together in mutually
programming harmony
like pure water
touching clear sky.

I like to think
(right now please!)
of a cybernetic forest
filled with pines and electronics
where deer stroll peacefully
past computers
as if they were flowers
with spinning blossoms.

The Amish should be able to continue doing whatever they're doing

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if economic growth continued at 1% a year, for 10k years, would that be good or bad from the position of ants in 10k years?

law of one player: nothing happens unless you (yes, you specifically) make it happen

common theme rn in alignment research is how value evolve, e.g. concept/value extrapolation, shard theory

@WomanCorn

Thanks!

Related question: How does it change between sitting alone in your room and doing projects together in person?

@WomanCorn The crime of underestimating other people's recklessness 😔

@wolf480pl yep, it's simulating whatever prompt+RLHF-induced mode collapse let it simulate