👁️ autosurveillant 👁️ @pee_zombie@schelling.pt

on the importance of open information flows and good epistemics for the proper operation of social cognition

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RT @pee_zombie
while the MSM could stand to be a bit more conservative with headlines the real issue is the masses handing over epistemic authority; socially-embodied cognition requires as input a strong signal of "what others believe", and an oligarchy controlling this is a point of failure https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/s…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1325342777153032192

certain people, who have difficulty connecting with others, or consciously resist it, are particularly likely to adopt more structured and formal methods of reasoning, as they enable a full cognitive loop to be embodied within a single mind; this can exacerbate conflicts

independent thinking is often seen as dangerous, as it runs the risk of separating you from the hivemind and isolating you; first-principles reasoning can be a dangerous meme, for this reason

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RT @pee_zombie
vast majority of humanity has never reasoned from first principles, and that's okay! it's simply not adaptive for the average person to do so. at best, you can obtain surplus resources, but at worst, it's a cognitohazard which i…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1314680420777287683

some have difficulty understanding human behavior because they model it as individuals arriving at conclusions independently, which is very rarely what actually happens

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RT @pee_zombie
@mutual_ayyde @chaosprime it's a useful technique but it's oftentimes failed for me for the same reason Homo Economicus fails: socially-embodied cognition. slowly coming around to the idea that majority of people legitimately are not discrete individu…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1324588277865865217

explicit logical reasoning fundamentally is in conflict with social cognition, which tends to function in the intuitive mode

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RT @pee_zombie
many people do not like when you demonstrate flaws in their logic by applying it to situations besides the specific one they had in mind

to them, this feels disingenuous/irrelevant, as they do not aim for a logically consistent worldview, but rather enacting their moral agenda https://twitter.…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1341162247243100160

humans wouldn't be human without social cognition; they become something else when all reasoning is sequestered within the confines of a single brain

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RT @pee_zombie
@ne0agent1c socially-embodied cognition is an inextricable part of human consciousness and one cannot understand the latter without the former
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1339031022646784000

social cognition as an emergent phenomenon, dependent on specialization of individuals

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RT @pee_zombie
16. for better or worse, this is because for most people, thinking is an inherently social process; their cognition is socially-embodied, they are not self-contained, & on their own, they do not comprise a fully conscious being; like ants or bees, the organism is the colony
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1339030561730555907

consciousness arose out of these iterated social interactions, as we learned to model our own selves by simulating interactions with others; this is where the Minsky "society of mind" originates

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RT @pee_zombie
socially-embodied cognition requires us to make a communication in order to introspect

in fact, consciousness arise for the sole reason of enabling us to make these communications https://twitter.com/sadalsvvd/status/1322025…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1322038965009031168

collecting some thoughts on socially-embodied cognition here

which is, the phenomenon wherein a significant portion of an individual's process of cognition extends outside of their self & into the interactions with their social neighbors, mediated through iterated interactions

the accelerationists say that (unconstrained) capitalism necessarily generates future shock as a function of its need for ever-escalating growth; the rate of change must always increase, because stasis is stagnation

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RT @pee_zombie
@mutual_ayyde great article thanks

so, capitalism as a chaotic economic state attractor, future shock stemming from exponentially increasing rate of update frequency, deterritorialization being societal …
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1341634138886066176

future-shock is another cause of calcification, but more of a protective move than an energy-economic one; people whose ability to update can't keep up with the world retreat into themselves

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RT @pee_zombie
@mutual_ayyde great article thanks

so, capitalism as a chaotic economic state attractor, future shock stemming from exponentially increasing rate of update frequency, deterritorialization being societal disequilibrium, capital s…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1341634138886066176

calcification as an energy-efficiency adaptation; why maintain expensive optionality if you're unlikely to need it?

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RT @pee_zombie
many people do the same; they search for their economic niche, a mate, a place to settle down, and then once this is achieved, their brains sort of calcify, as there is no longer any real need for conscious contemplation. from an evolutionary standpoint, it would be inefficient.
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1379652742264856576

for many people, their music taste gets permanently frozen at what was cool when they were in high school; this explains much of the "oldies" and nostalgia phenomena

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RT @pee_zombie
a friend today mentioned a band I liked and was confused when I said I didn't, protesting that I raved about an album... 8 years ago

this friend has been listening to the exact same music since then, meanwhile there is little overlap between the music I…
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1322390185963827200

thinking about future shock today, and more generally, calcification and stagnation of self

why it happens, who it happens to, whether its inevitable

collecting some related thoughts in the replies
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RT @pee_zombie
@orthonormalist I made a quick diagram to explain this
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1387250372012650496

guys I said locked alts only and I meant it sorry

just doesn't feel right otherwise

once again finding myself wishing for a way to segregate yall so I could comfortably go apeshit without alienating the rest of you

alas

reminder that if you want angryposting you can follow my locked alt @piss_lich from your locked alt (only)
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RT @pee_zombie
it would be nice if there was a way to "tweet at" a list that wasn't a DM

I want to post at a group of accounts that I consider "safe" for some topic. could of course make an …
https://twitter.com/pee_zombie/status/1381377169432182785

there's also a much simpler explanation; theater kids and their adult forms (shitlibs) are incredibly corny and obsessed with the hyperreal, the world of symbols and their interrelations; who cares about minutia of policy (like vax approvals) when there's an emotional narrative?
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RT @CovfefeAnon
There are two possibilities - either Fauci is some vague authority that they're aware of that seems to be on their team hence the insane de…
https://twitter.com/CovfefeAnon/status/1387053071620984833

this but unironically
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RT @koaleszenz
"cancel culture" disproportionately affects people who are worse than average at predicting how their behavior or opinions will be interpreted by others and who, therefore, are more likely than average to be autistic or otherwise neurodivergent. it is thus, in a sense, ableist 🍵
https://twitter.com/koaleszenz/status/1386729471210893313

in case any of you were confused about the nature of our arrangement
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RT @_StevenFan
@nerdposterino @pareinoia @pee_zombie @thesravaka For your epherimal enjoyment
https://twitter.com/_StevenFan/status/1386501936677986310

just being able to use a model doesn't mean you understand it; that requires verbal mastery
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RT @cosine_distance
whoever said "if you understand something well you can explain it simply" or whatever is full of shit. there's a lot of things i know well because i have non-verbally sculpted the mental model and those representations afaict have no relation to my ability to communicate
https://twitter.com/cosine_distance/status/1386276587922878467