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not saying the situations are comparable in terms of harm caused but this definitely feels sloppy and dismissive the way "African-Americans can't speak English properly" does

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these are mostly discoursey norms but there are lots of nondiscoursey norms too

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tbh my view around youth gender transition is "this seems like a wildly inappropriate thing to decide by a public referendum given this is obviously going to result in a moral panic and not ordinary people carefully scouring the literature, we don't do cardiology by referendum"

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also
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RT @RichardMCNgo
A term I've found useful lately is "intellectual empathy": the ability to see the ways that someone else's worldview is reasonable, even when it disagrees with your own.

Emotional empathy is a vital skill, but intellectual empathy seems to be even rarer and more valuable.
twitter.com/RichardMCNgo/statu

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rats/EAs talk about these things all the time! eg twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/
the real problem you're complaining about is suddenly finding a space where you're socially clueless
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RT @Aella_Girl
Its hard to describe what rationalist culture is "about"; here's a good summary of the conversational guidelines:
twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/

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the problem with the claim 'rationalists/EAs don't care about social norms/skills' is that these things are ... relative to the cultural environment you're in

oops this is an outdated version pretty sure 2mg/day is still too low for most people though

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tbh i suspect the most noticable thing to be T suppression and I'm not sure what the directional effects of that are going to be

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i wonder why these patients might not be noticing very much

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so after a bit of hunting it looks like they're using us endocrine society guidelines
here's what they recommend for adolescent (~16 yr old) trans women
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RT @RottenInDenmark
Here's the link if you want to see how desperate his "debunking" is becoming. I cannot believe people still consider him an expert and a neutral arbiter on this issue.
jessesingal.substack.com/p/the
twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/st

so after a bit of hunting it looks like they're using us endocrine society guidelines
here's what they recommend for adolescent (~16 yr old) trans women
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RT @RottenInDenmark
Here's the link if you want to see how desperate his "debunking" is becoming. I cannot believe people still consider him an expert and a neutral arbiter on this issue.
jessesingal.substack.com/p/the
twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/st

I suspect pop feminism has a pretty wrongheaded idea of why a lot of this stuff goes unreported

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I think putting this front and centre is critical enough that I'm happy to call it the difference between a team that is serious and one that is there for PR purposes

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also: how common is the CEA/community health teams thing of "we will not take action on what you've said even if we're really disturbed by it unless you want us to"?

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maybe we need a sign
"EA/Rationality spaces are a safe space for people with OCD please no fortissimo moral injunctions"

the poly thing seems completely unhelpful to me if people could stop insinuating demographics im part of are suspicious and predatory that'd be great thx

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good to discover that blindspot and relations do seem to be thawing a bit

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so i think the actual story here was "we were somehow missing an entire parallel grapevine for reporting sexual assault allegations among EAs, targeted at people who were mistrustful of EA"
(also "you cannot actually control who calls themselves an EA")

[i guess i'm excluding poly people who don't feel any jealousy whatsover and mono people who are too lazy to be poly here]

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also i am now fully willing to admit that poly people are queer

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