3. if voting is a tool for gaining legitimacy, then what other ways could we build that legitimacy. e.g. building it based on religion or monarchy or whatever
4. what counts as legitimacy anyways? lack of opposition? willingness to obey and coordinate? faith in leadership?
(the following is my own. not pwang's)
1. i had never considered that voting was a tool for legitimacy, instead of how its usually presented as a tool for discovering and implementing the will of the people
2. this kinda makes sense though. we've had plenty of corrupt votes here and no one could dare challenge the government for it. absurdity is a feature of authoritarian regimes, not a bug. 2 + 2 = 5 and no one dares challenge it, dont stick your neck out
(not sure if pwang is in mastodon or not. that account seems empty
https://twitter.com/pwang/status/1604638195773280256?t=XqmzwNVIH9ylqcmx12gcbg)
RT @pwang
Voting is not a great way to surface the “best ideas” from a group.
The primary purpose of voting is to maintain legitimacy of the regime in the minds of the losing cadre; you get their “buy in” bc they were part of the “process”
It’s not a tool for collective sense-making; it’s a tool for popular control.
Always has been, always will.
If, somehow, some general sense of “the collective will of the people” can emerge from a voting process, it’s a nice side benefit.
@lisperati seen a few people on twitter say "i won't touch whatecer a server is" which is weird considering how easy sign up is
might actually be a good filter to see people who can dereference and deal with things instead of attacking words. definitely going to have more nerds here
Risks to Mastodon with increasing popularity
Interesting comment on Hackernews regarding a possible scenario/long term risk should Mastodon threaten the corporate sphere of social media.
@aquarial !!!!
i hadnt considered that! but yeah you're right. "no one gives a fuck about men" basically.
if the problem is constrained solely to needing to be seen then i think that can be solved smh. i've kinda lost the need for validation / feeling seen
if the problem is that you need help, then you're fucked unless you have close friends and family that you can rely on
@panchromaticity what did she do this time
@WomanCorn yeah, some guys get the image of "he will solve all my problems alone and stoically" projected onto them which genuinely is shit especially if the guy adopts it too
but it seems to me that this is rarer. i feel like i havent met a woman who hasnt vented about being a woman
i have met men who vented about women, and about life, but never about being men
@retr0id i always hated their new landing page. it looks like a psychotic episode
@ajvermillion reasonable
(this toot is a minefield of hazards. but its quiet here so should be ok. nice to experiment)
honestly. im very happy that i was born a man instead of a woman. women have it worse off
sure i *might* get drafted to die in a war and ought to be the breadwinner. but
• i get 0 sexual harrasment
• no one projects their shit on me
• no one assumes i'm incompetent in anything
despite this, you get guys who think women have it better smfh (mainly due to women having more legal rights, & more sexual power)
how shitty does your life have to be to hate your own gender lol
@andrew also i love what you made! more power to you❤️
@andrew ah so closer to tribe building
i'd suggest checking out Rich Decibels and his work on https://www.microsolidarity.cc/
and https://rafael.fyi/ by raf
(didn't realize how much easier it is to link on twitter. mayabe the problem is that people are used to using a service instead of using the internet as a whole)
cookbooks do not feed the hungry. still stuck in platos cave. happy to recieve DMs :D