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3. if voting is a tool for gaining legitimacy, then what other ways could we build that legitimacy. e.g. building it based on religion or monarchy or whatever

4. what counts as legitimacy anyways? lack of opposition? willingness to obey and coordinate? faith in leadership?

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(the following is my own. not pwang's)

1. i had never considered that voting was a tool for legitimacy, instead of how its usually presented as a tool for discovering and implementing the will of the people

2. this kinda makes sense though. we've had plenty of corrupt votes here and no one could dare challenge the government for it. absurdity is a feature of authoritarian regimes, not a bug. 2 + 2 = 5 and no one dares challenge it, dont stick your neck out

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RT @pwang

Voting is not a great way to surface the “best ideas” from a group.

The primary purpose of voting is to maintain legitimacy of the regime in the minds of the losing cadre; you get their “buy in” bc they were part of the “process”

It’s not a tool for collective sense-making; it’s a tool for popular control.
Always has been, always will.

If, somehow, some general sense of “the collective will of the people” can emerge from a voting process, it’s a nice side benefit.

*makes an alt to post things that can get me in trouble*

*stops posting spicy takes once i got mildly popular* 🤦‍♂️

but this place is cozier and nerdier. so lets have fun

@lisperati seen a few people on twitter say "i won't touch whatecer a server is" which is weird considering how easy sign up is

might actually be a good filter to see people who can dereference and deal with things instead of attacking words. definitely going to have more nerds here

Risks to Mastodon with increasing popularity 

Interesting comment on Hackernews regarding a possible scenario/long term risk should Mastodon threaten the corporate sphere of social media.

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3

@aquarial !!!!

i hadnt considered that! but yeah you're right. "no one gives a fuck about men" basically.

if the problem is constrained solely to needing to be seen then i think that can be solved smh. i've kinda lost the need for validation / feeling seen

if the problem is that you need help, then you're fucked unless you have close friends and family that you can rely on

I received an email pitching "managed Mastodon hosting." So, apparently someone's realizing there's a market there...

@WomanCorn yeah, some guys get the image of "he will solve all my problems alone and stoically" projected onto them which genuinely is shit especially if the guy adopts it too

but it seems to me that this is rarer. i feel like i havent met a woman who hasnt vented about being a woman

i have met men who vented about women, and about life, but never about being men

eyes (pupil dilation) are incredibly expressive, but i don't get to see that because most people here have very dark irises

If I had a lot of money and I cared about the future of knowledge, I'd take a snapshot of archive .org, libgen, scihub, etc. and then make a big torrent (i.e. hash it in chunks), and then publish the infohash as widely as possible. (and maybe also embed the infohash in the bitcoin blockchain 🤮)

The reason being, LLMs are very good at making shit up. There are indirect economic incentives to do so (SEO), and more direct ones (disinfo campaigns, propaganda, etc.)

I predict that *provably* pre-2022 information will be increasingly valuable in the future. We don't just need archival, but "proof of existence before [timestamp]".

To be clear, machine-generated content and disinformation are nothing new, but I think we're at an inflection point where it's going to get a whole lot worse - both in terms of volume, and how convincing it is.

Footnote: torrent+infohash is just an example, there's probably much more intelligent ways of doing it.

@retr0id i always hated their new landing page. it looks like a psychotic episode

people will never explicitly say "i envy you." however they will say that this is "unfair" or "immoral" and that you "*should be punished*" for it and have it taken away

i wonder how many political movements started with envy

(this toot is a minefield of hazards. but its quiet here so should be ok. nice to experiment)

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honestly. im very happy that i was born a man instead of a woman. women have it worse off

sure i *might* get drafted to die in a war and ought to be the breadwinner. but
• i get 0 sexual harrasment
• no one projects their shit on me
• no one assumes i'm incompetent in anything

despite this, you get guys who think women have it better smfh (mainly due to women having more legal rights, & more sexual power)

how shitty does your life have to be to hate your own gender lol

@andrew ah so closer to tribe building

i'd suggest checking out Rich Decibels and his work on microsolidarity.cc/

and rafael.fyi/ by raf

(didn't realize how much easier it is to link on twitter. mayabe the problem is that people are used to using a service instead of using the internet as a whole)

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